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June 23, 2009

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Grady Bauer

I agree with Timmy Brister...these motions represent what is wrong with the SBC. We are cutting people on the field...declining in membership and baptism and we have people wanting to boycott June (gay pride month), pepsi and ed stetzer....makes me want to cuss and have a drink :-)

Alan Cross

I just tweeted this, but thought it belonged here. SBCVoices responded to the motion on President Obama and Israel by saying:

SBCvoices: motioned: congress + PRez to obey the Bible & love Israle so God won't kill us @obama #sbc2009

Those motions were something else.

Keith Powell

I have not been affiliated with an SBC church forover mfour years. This insanity that is the SBC makes it difficult for ANYONE to get a heraing for the gospel.

Boycott Pepsi? Reall? It's a company with a mission to make money. Gays are as much consumers as heterosexuals! Should we boycott Pepsi because it seeks out and sells to theological liberals, too? And, by the way, who gets hurt in these boycotts? The employees, that's who. Families who are already struggling with a shaky economy and uncertain markets. This type statement again confirms the fact that most "Christians" only see to the end of thier nose.

One last observation ... how many backing this little effort were against the bailout of the auto companies? How many of them said "capitalism or bust?" PepsiCo is a capitalist success story. Get yourselves into a place where you don't contradict yourselves ... how about a resolution against anymore stupid resolutions?

Keith Powell
Tucson, AZ

Alan Cross

Keith, you're not telling me anything I don't know. Most of these resolutions are ridiculous and make no sense. I heard from a reliable source that Roger Moran, the fundamentalist from Missouri, has been behind much of this and is passing out flyers around the convention hall. Something must be happening because this is unusual, even for the SBC.

Mark | hereiblog

It's amazing that there was a homosexual boycott called for and then a video on how LifeWay is reaching out evangelizing homosexuals with a sort of task force. How do those work together?

Maybe we should boycott Pepsi because they hire and pay unbelievers that are heterosexual, homosexual, just out right sinners! Coke doesn't do this, ya know. ;)

Jeff Moody

Per our discussion yesterday: We must boycott the College World Series of Baseball because it is played in the month of June (Gay and Lesbian month) and while no alcohol can be served in the stadium, alcohol can be purchased somewhere in Omaha, Nebraska. Why did no one bring this up?

Ken

"Dr. Akin then called for Southern Baptists to sacrifice to get missionaries to the field, since we have fallen $29 million short of our Lottie Moon Christmas Offering goal - which would have put over 600 missionaries on the field."

My math is not very good. Why does it take $29 million to put over 600 missionaries on the field?

Brian

Ken,

$29 million divided by 600 is $48,333, which seems to me to be a minimal annual budget for a missionary family to rent a house/apartment, buy necessities, travel to their field (international airfare can be $1000 a person depending on destination), and carry out ministry projects.

I'm not familiar with the inner workings of the IMB and NAMB, since I'm not SBC, so I don't know if the LMCO is the main funding drive for all SBC missionaries, or if each missionary family itenerates to raise their monthly support and cash budget (like in the A/G where I hang my hat).

Grady Bauer

Ken and Brian,
The majority of funding for people serving with the IMB comes from the annual Christmas offering...with a little extra from the Cooperative Program. the number of $48 K per unit seems kind of high...knowing what I make but it would include...7 weeks of pre-field training, housing, insurance, retirement (for long-term units),travel, office expenses, ministry budget. There is a policy in place that prohibits IMB personnel from raising support for projects or ministry needs...so if we don't have a ministry budget we have to hope someone offers to support us...we can't ask.

I also know that we have some buffer money and for the last few years we've been taking from that to support the current number of people on the field. Although giving is usually increasing it's not keeping up with cost of living due to the dollar losing value in the majority of countries. So this cut helps us to fund with the amount we're expecting to receive over the coming years.
Grady

Jennifer S

Also the IMB does have a stateside staff that earns a salary by helping to manage and train the missionaries, so that amount would have to reduce the $48k figure.

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