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Steven Taylor

In re: Carrie Prejean, I am not sure exactly what has "happened" to her save from the situation elevating her from z-list celeb to maybe q-list celeb. Yes, she has been ridiculed in some circles, yet she has also been elevated in others. This may be very cynical of me, but isn't the point of these "beauty contest" to get attention for oneself and to increase one's general celebrity/find career opportunities? As such, wasn't she actually a phenomenal success? Can any of us even name one other contestant? Did we know anything about Prejean prior to this situation?

I think that the bottom line is that she has enhanced her career situation rather than having suffered from the event.

(I had some links to include, but it appears that comments are set not to allow HTML).

BTW--I don't want my tone (which is often difficult to construe in comments) to sounds argumentative--it is just that this has been my basic response to the situation. Indeed, I am sufficiently cynical to think that she knew that her statements would bring attention onto her, which, again, was the whole point of the process.

Mich

Hey--the New Believers Study is a GREAT idea!
I wish more Churches did this.

Jeff Moody

The whole Carrie Prejean thing is a great example of why we do not need "heroes" to champion the cause of marriage. We need to share the gospel with others and as such present the holy standard of God in marriage and the message of the grace and healing of Christ.

Were we really naive enough to try and find a champion in a person in a beauty contest where over 90% of the contestants have had plastic surgery? (Not to mention the not so modest pictures linked to the internet).

I am beginning to believe (and I could be wrong) that the way to impact our society for Christ will be in grass roots proclamation of God's truth instead of having someone champion our first amendment right and then become embroiled in scandal. No one is perfect, hence the reason why we do not need celebrity endorsement but to talk with our neighbors at our house over dinner.

Wayne Smith

Alan,

You should have your book published for all to have a study guide.

wayne

Alan Cross

Wayne,

Right now, it will go to my church for free That's likely where it will stay. But, I'll be better off for it and I think that it will be helpful for the church as well.

Jeff M.,

I don't think that Carie Prejean is trying to do evangelism nor should we use her as a poster child for affecting the gay community. I'm not a big fan of beauty contests but I also don't like attacking people who share their opinions. No, I don't see her as a role model either, but I also think that what she said should not have been attacked the way it was. But, that is life in the public eye, I guess.

Steven,

I think that it ended up benefitting her, no doubt. But, I don't think that this was planned or orchestrated in any way. It will benefit her because she is beautiful and people will want her to be a spokesperson for their cause. All of that is terribly misguided, in my opinion. But, the next person who receives this treatment might not have as many opportunities as Miss Prejean. It is the attacking behavior against her that I find dangerous. I'm not really thinking about whether or not she benefitted from it in the long run.

Jeff Moody

Alan,

My argument is not against Carrie Prejean herself (though it sounds that way, sorry about that) but the way organizations like NOM immediately made her a spokesperson. We tend to think we are going to stand against gay marriage if we get that one guy or girl to champion our cause.

My argument is that we do not need heroes. Ted Haggard, Carrie Prejean, James Dobson and whoever else will ultimately disappoint. We must impact our community with the gospel, hence my argument that we impact society with the truth of God, not a flawed spokesperson.

Doug

Alan - can you stand one more comment on Prejean. I (respectfully) disagree with your conclusion. I think the problem is not her conviction, but the fact that she lacks both intellect and integrity. If we are going to "speak out against" any moral issue, we must do so intelligently and with integrity, otherwise, we are only hurting the "cause". I was embarrassed to read that she was on "Focus on the Family". Conservatives and Christians shoot themselves in the foot by aligning with questionable spokespersons. Can anyone honestly say that Sarah Palin was NOT one major reason that McCain lost the election? She, too, lacked both intelligence and integrity on the issues!

Alan Cross

Jeff and Doug,

You aren't saying exactly the same thing, but I'll lump you together because I think that my perspective will answer what both of you are saying.

I don't like celebrity spokespersons for "causes" that relate to the Christian life at all. They are all flawed, by the way. Just like I am flawed. She might lack intellect and integrity, but she was not in the Miss USA pageant for those reasons. She was not trying to be a flawless spokesperson. She was asked a question and she shared her honest opinion, as unintelligent and as flawed as it might have been. I happened to agree with her overall perspective on gay marriage, but she gave a poor answer to the question about what states should do She shared her personal opinion on the issue and did not address how states should handle. It was a bad question all around, actually.

At any rate, all that I am addressing here is that someone should not be attacked for sharing their opinion. I don't think that Perez Hilton should be attacked for sharing his opinion on gay marriage. That is his opinion. Carrie Prejean shared hers. Disagree with it. Debate it. But, don't attack the woman.

Similarly, we are all tired of trotting out every celebrity that happens to agree with us on an issue to be our spokesperson. Prejean is definitely flawed and is not a good example I agree, Sarah Palin ended up being a disaster after she got off of her initial talking points. But, is it right to attack them in the media because they have different views than those doing the attacking. No. That is all that I am saying and I see a pattern developing here that we had better get used to. If you disagree with the PC position on gay marriage, you will be persecuted. We just need to be ready for that.

The integrity and validity of Prejean as a spokesperson or a strategy on how to change America through personal, relational evangelism is divergent from what I was initially saying. I don't disagree with what either of you have promoted. But, my point deals with the fairness of attacking someone for expressing their opinion the way that Prejean was attacked.

Now, this paragraph was four times longer than my initial statement about Carrie Prejean. Hopefully, I have done a better job here of explaining what I meant than I did in the initial paragraph. :)

Jeff Moody

Yes, I understand your point now and agree.

Alan Cross

Wow. I went back and read my comment and I seem to have had trouble hitting the "period" key on my keyboard. Massive run-on sentences were the result. The punctuation was terrible. I only say that because I know that Jeff is getting a master's in English and my butchering of the language is shameful.

Thankfully, blog comments are not closely scrutinized for their literary value.

Jeff Moody

They will be for the book I am writing about you.

"Alan Cross: Used by God Despite Bad Grammar."

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