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July 02, 2008

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Gary Snowden

Good thoughts, Alan. I read McGavran's works extensively during a doctoral seminar at SWBTS with Dr. Cal Guy back in the early 80s. I was a bit sympathetic to some of his arguments in books like Bridges of God where he talked about the gospel advancing through homogeneous units faster because it encountered fewer barriers in the process. Like you though, something didn't ring true about the make-up of a church that perpetuated segregation and prejudice rather than breaking down the walls of separation between previously hostile groups like Paul talks about in Eph. 2. Thanks for the solid reflections.

Dave Miller

I think that the homogenous unit principle works. However, I have always felt that it stands in opposition to Paul's teaching in Ephesians 2 about breaking down walls and making the two one.

Doug

Bro. Alan,
Your point was exactly my Bible Study lesson last night in Prayer Meeting, using the example of the First Church, which it seems, was multi-cultural, multi-ethnic and multi-racial (Acts 2:5, 9-11; 14; 37-41, 6:1-7, et.al.). It is amazing to me that, though the church was born out of the exclusivity of the Jewish faith, the first Christians seem to be open to other cultures and races (although they still had to work out that Judaism background thing!). This is the work of the Holy Spirit before "church growth experts" could interfere!

Yogi Taylor

Excellent article!

It is amazing how many things we implement to create unity, actually creates division.

Yogi Taylor

Strider

With respect to Doug the first century church was very prejudiced and it took God's intervention on a number of occasions including Peter's animal vision and Philip's physical relocation to get the gospel past those barriers.

There is another way of looking at this. Jesus has come to redeem communities. The Church model we have had for a long time now has been 'leave your community and come and join ours.' This is traditional church and it has always been less effective than we have wanted it to be. Yes, we should be welcoming and inviting but it is time for us to come out from behind our walls and go and redeem communities. When we do that we will not be the deciders (I think George Bush is the 'decider' isn't he?) but rather as we go to communities they will already be in relationships. They will already have a 'make up'. They will already be black, white, mixed or mixed up. We need to start churches in lost communities that are for their community. It is always difficult- and a little dishonest- when we beat up our existing community and say, 'hey guys, we need to change who we are so we can reach those Hispanics!' Well, we should reach those Hispanics but why not help them build the church that reaches their own community instead of doing something artificial with our own community. Paul was all things to all people but he was also always himself. He went into a community, shared in a way that impacted them and then left. They carried on with Jesus building His Kingdom in their lives in a way that fit them and what He wanted them to be.
I feel strongly that if we are about building up God's Kingdom this will be easy for us to grasp and get done. If we are about building our own kingdoms then clearly this strategy makes no sense as it will not increase our numbers or benefit our congregation. Let's be about building up God's Kingdom by giving away our resources to establish works that are not 'ours' in new communities that desperately need a Church to redeem them.

Alan Cross

Good thoughts, guys. I think that Ephesians 2:11-18 is key here:

11Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called "uncircumcised" by those who call themselves "the circumcision" (that done in the body by the hands of men)— 12remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.
14For he himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new man out of the two, thus making peace, 16and in this one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. 17He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. 18For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.

Jesus tears down dividing walls between ethnic groups so that they both as access through Him to the Father by the Holy Spirit.

In Acts 11:15-18, we see Peter explaining his actions at Cornelius' house when the Gentiles first came to the Lord. It says,

15"As I began to speak, the Holy Spirit came on them as he had come on us at the beginning. 16Then I remembered what the Lord had said: 'John baptized with[a]water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.' 17So if God gave them the same gift as he gave us, who believed in the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I to think that I could oppose God?" 18When they heard this, they had no further objections and praised God, saying, "So then, God has granted even the Gentiles repentance unto life."


The key here is the work of Christ in his death and resurrection and the work of the Holy Spirit in appropriating the work of Christ. When the Holy Spirit is at work, He takes from what is Jesus' and makes it known to us (John 16:14-15). Jesus tears down dividing walls. The Gospel is for all people (Col. 3:11). The Church at Antioch in Acts 11 was directly mentioned right after Peter's experience as an example of what a Spirit-filled, Christ centered, gospel proclaiming church in a pluralistic society should be.

David Rogers

Alan,

Thanks for your thoughts on this. I am generally sympathetic to your ideas, but still wrestling with some of the implications.

I know this is a late comment on this post, and you may not have the time to do this. But, if and whenever you are able to find the time, I would love to have your insights on a post somewhat related to this same issue that I recently posted at:

http://www.sbcimpact.net/2008/07/22/cultural-engineering-in-church/

David Rogers

Alan,

Thanks for your thoughts on this. I am generally sympathetic to your ideas, but still wrestling with some of the implications.

I know this is a late comment on this post, and you may not have the time to do this. But, if and whenever you are able to find the time, I would love to have your insights on a post somewhat related to this same issue that I recently posted at:

http://www.sbcimpact.net/2008/07/22/cultural-engineering-in-church/

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