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June 11, 2008

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Dorcas Hawker

Alan –

This quote spoken by Frodo from the Lord of the Rings third movie comes to mind in response to your post:

"And thus it was. A fourth age of middle-earth began. And the fellowship of the ring... though eternally bound by friendship and love... was ended. Thirteen months to the day since Gandalf sent us on our long journey... we found ourselves looking upon a familiar sight. We were home. How do you pick up the threads of an old life? How do you go on... when in your heart you begin to understand... there is no going back? There are some things that time cannot mend... some hurts that go too deep... that have taken hold. Bilbo once told me his part in this tale would end... that each of us must come and go in the telling. Bilbo's story was now over. There would be no more journeys for him... save one. My dear Sam. You cannot always be torn in two. You will have to be one and whole for many years. You have so much to enjoy, and to be, and to do. Your part in the story will go on."

Dorcas

John Stickley

You just knocked that pitch clear out of the stadium.

Excellent thoughts, Alan.

andrew jones (tallskinnykiwi)

thanks for the great post. its been 9 years since i have attended a SBC convention (atlanta) and its great to hear what is happening while i have been overseas. interesting about the bloggers also.

Camel Rider

Thanks for the updates. Checking your blog is soooo much cheaper than flying from Africa...plus I can know about the convention without having to hear the Gaither Vocal Band!

It sounds like there is the potential for positive change...but is it too little too late. The bigger question is, is the denomination worth saving? Or are we simply holding on to a previous tool...when in fact there may be better options in our future? I'm not sure the answer but it'll be interesting to see if we actually make any changes or simply move on as usual.
::: Camel Rider

Kevin Bussey

Good post. I'm not as hopeful as I once was. But I met some great friends like you out of all of this. I guess it makes it worth it.

Alan Cross

Dorcas, very poetic. I see what you're saying. It is hard to see things the same way after the last couple of years. Hopefully, some good will come out of it.

Andrew, it would be a lot of fun to go to the Convention with you. You would definitely provide some different perspective! It's hard for me to imagine Andrew Jones at the Convention, but then again, you've been around the SBC for a long time now in one way or another. Thanks for stopping by and for continuing to challenge us.

Camel Rider, I am asking the same questions. I don't know if it can be saved, at least in an effective way. But, I am at least encouraged that people are recognizing that we have a problem. That is a good first step. Is it too little too late? Maybe so. But, I want to make sure that I am pointing out the good that happens.

John and Kevin, I am glad that I met you guys a couple of years ago. I wish that there was a way to keep up in a more personal way. Thanks for being an encouragement.

Wayne Smith

Alan,

Great insight and analyzes of the SBC and what is happening. The Pastor need much prayer as they put forth the New Resolution, as many of the People in the Pews are not Regenerate Christians. These church members will not want to be Accountable for Church Discipline for themselves and others. I pray that Dr. Johnny Hunt gets behind this Resolution and Preaches Church Discipline in support of these Pastors.

Pastor Jake Porter has a great Post on the Blog Here:

http://jakeporter.wordpress.com/2008/06/11/church-discipline-affirmed-how-the-sbc-made-me-cry/

Wayne Smith

andrew jones (tallskinnykiwi)

alan. i thought of doing a fringe event this year at the convention but couldnt get there. hey - 15 years with the southern baptists, thank you. how long does it take to get baptist cred?

Alan Cross

Andrew, with some Baptists, you have to be Baptist at least 30 years before you were born to be considered the real thing, and even then, there might be doubts. These Baptists aren't like the ones at Golden Gate. But, we'll take you and give you all the cred you want.

By the way, the Convention is becoming a fringe event itself - numbers are dropping every year. I went the last two years but watched it online this year and got the same thing out of it as those who went. Plus, I saved a ton of money and I got to hang out with my family and church and sleep in my own bed. Not bad.

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