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June 13, 2007

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Les Puryear

Amen!

Les

Chris Wilson

What Dr Mohler said was not spin. He was sepaking the truth about what the motion called for: The BFM will be a guide in hiring professors. NO professor will be hired without affirming the BFM. What else do you want?

You want to have your cake and eat it too. You want to affirm Sola Scriptura (that's the authority of the Bible alone is our guide, FYI) yet you want to adopt the BFM as the FINAL say about all our doctrine. Those two mindsets are mutually exclusive.

Dr Mohler articulated the only perspective SBCers can have on this issue: the BFM is a confession that is a minimum statement about the core issues of what we believe make us distinct as Southern Baptists which will guide the hiring of seminary professors, and that the the BIBLE will still be his ultimate authority in doctrine and theology.

Paul Burleson

Chris,

Quite the opposite. What is said is that the BF@M is fallible and purposefully vague in places. The difference is simply that the Convention has gone on record as saying don't add to it arbitrarily. ALL Baptists are to hold the scriptures as final authority. But what essentials are for Baptist life are addressed by the BF@M. Where it is ambiguous it is to remain so UNLESS the Convention speaks to it's ambiguity.

If an entity [this whole issue is about entities after all] wishes to go beyond the BF@M they have the authority to do so. But it will be beyond the will of the Southern Baptist people speaking the only way they can, collectively, in Convention. If a BOT wants to prevent caveats in vague areas let the Convention speak to that too. No one is elevating the BF@M to a creed this way but actually using it as a Confession of Faith. But the change is the Convention has say as to the essentials and the nuances that can be seen differently.

I repeat, this does NOT keep SBC entities BOTs from going beyond the BF@M or even challenging a trustee/missionary's caveats. It simple gives the Convention a voice instead of a Board of Trustees that often never reports how, who, and what was decided and is presented to the SBC people as a done deal.

Of course, personal, ethical, and even some moral issues will be handled by an entities BOT. Even lesser doctrinal issues can be raised, but, for goodness sake, let's keep the people involved. While the Convention is not a Church, I would want NO LESS for any church I've ever pastored. No one can question the authority of a BOT to make decisions of this nature, but the wisdom of a Bot, were they to do so contrary to the expressed wishes of the people, would be questionable.

I repeat a final time, this KEEPS the BF@M from being a creed that automatically must be signed or thoughtlessly adhered to OR can be enforced in areas that heretofor were purposefully left vague, but at a whim, are decided to be non-baptist so let's add them to our standard. Rather let's ask all Southern Baptists if it is essential or if it is minor. It simply brings it back into the interpretive hands of the people as a deliberative body. This is actually using a Confession of Faith as a legitimate guide for ALL our people with out using compulsion on any. That may, after all, be the Baptist way.

Jeff Richard Young

Dear Brother Alan,

I'm sorry I couldn't have any barbeque with you this year. Thanks for keeping us posted.

Love in Christ,

Jeff

Debbie Kaufman

Now if you could have only given that message in front of the Convention.

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